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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 5, 2008 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Pennsylvania

a parallel universe: Pennsylvania

it is VERY FAR ACROSS, like a western state.... a vastness that shakes you up a little if you have been lingering in the
northeast corridor and then head out and as you go down through boston, and spring field CT and make your way past new york,
it is not too long before you cross the border from jersey into PA and you roll on for a long time and the towns fade and the
hills roll on, covered in leafy deciduous trees... the gas stations turn menacing. you are almost out of the grip.... OHIO is the last
hall... after OHIO you have done something, and you are on your way into the bigness for real....

the dead have played outside of pittsburgh and philly a few times...... but only 14 times out of 102 total dates in PA ... they played scranton but once:
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a solid show, but the recording is a bit harsh....

the band played Penn State twice, May 8, 1979, and then again the following year, on May 6. both shows have their merits but i think maybe the show from 79 takes the cake, what an outstanding set list:

Set 1:
Promised Land
They Love Each Other
Mama Tried
Mexicali Blues
Brown-Eyed Women
It's All Over Now
Row Jimmy
El Paso
Stagger Lee
Lazy Lightnin'
Supplication
Deal

Set 2:
Scarlet Begonias
Fire On The Mountain
Samson And Delilah
Terrapin Station
Playin' In The Band
Drums
The Other One
China Doll
Playin' In The Band
Good Lovin'

Encore:
Shakedown Street

TLEO, all over now, row jimmy, a bobby twofer and a rousing deal....scarlet>fire, a china doll breakout, and a shakedown encore? what is not to like??

in 1980, they played THE REC HALL again. and this show contains one of the rare instances when some dude calls out....
begging for CHIIIINAAA CAT!!!!! and then they play it: ....it's true, Jerry Heard You!

how will this compare to the forthcoming setlist?:


Set 1:
Alabama Getaway
Greatest Story Ever Told
Peggy-O
Me And My Uncle
Big River
Loser
Far From Me
Lazy Lightnin'
Supplication
Althea
Lost Sailor
Saint Of Circumstance
Set 2:
China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Feel Like A Stranger
He's Gone
The Other One
Drums
Wharf Rat
Around And Around
Johnny B. Goode
Encore:
Brokedown Palace



This post was modified by He Live's on 2008-10-05 19:34:24

excuse the bump, i realized i had blown it and missed THE FIRST Penn State Gig, from 1979.... and it is really good, and so is Glassberg AUD!



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Poster: stilldead77 Date: Oct 5, 2008 2:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

He Live's: Thanks for the wonderful post and the picture of my home town.

Ah, home sweet home! I was born in Scranton in 1976 and lived there for 20 years. Very interesting that you post this today, as I took a one way flight to San Diego on October 5th, 1996, 12 years ago today. Aside from some visits and the benefit events I put on there over the past two years, I have been away, far away.

Yes, Pennsylvania is a wonderful place, the Dead loved it and played some killer shows there. When I was being born, the Dead were less than two hours away in Upper Darby, probably rippin into Franklin's.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd76-06-24.sbd.dudeman.25478.sbeok.shnf

Phil has played there many times since 1999 also, including two fine shows I saw this summer.

It goes without saying that I am very grateful to have been raised there, on rock and roll. So many kind heads showed me the way from such a young age, there are many music maniacs there like me and you. This is only one of the reasons I love Pennsylvania. Rock on.

PS. Smile2s, piss up a rope ; )

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Oct 5, 2008 11:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

hey still- are you stil in san diego? If so please help me find civilization and deadheads- I am trapped in the california version of deliverance living in vista

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Poster: stilldead77 Date: Oct 5, 2008 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

Hey, Vista, that's a half hour from Vegas, right? Ha Ha.

Pretty strange out that way. I think all the Deadheads left there. I have not lived there in 4 years. I live in Thailand now.

On Wed night at Winstons in Ocean Beach I think they have a Dead cover band. Look it up and go have a burrito or three at Bahia Grill on Grand Ave (at Bayard) in PB, tell Stephen Jeremy sent you.

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Poster: el muerto Date: Oct 5, 2008 1:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

what a shithole.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 5, 2008 5:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

i lived for several months within shouting distance of that clock (which is if i recall, city hall); and with all respect to stilldead, a more depressing town/city i've never lived in

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Poster: stilldead77 Date: Oct 5, 2008 6:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

Can't agree with you more, feel ya on that one.

Did you ever see the Village Idiots (Dead cover band) at JD Crackers on Wed's? That gig, along with the food were two of the best things around.

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Poster: patourkid Date: Oct 5, 2008 8:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

I am particularly fond of Pa. I have and always will called Pa home and I am proud to do so. I couldn't have ask for a better show location or time of year. Happy Valley is BEAUTIFUL any time let alone in the fall which happens to also be harvest season. And there is NOTHING like some good mountain grown Indica.....except puffin organic mountain grown Indica in the mountains while standing in front of a stage with none other than the boys and 20 or so of my closest friends. Yeah sounds like a damn good time if I must say so.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 5, 2008 9:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

It's also interesting how leaving a place shapes your take on it as well. I always loved the Bay Area, having grown up there in the 50s-70s, and then left in the late 70s, but what I noticed is that the folks that stayed, whom I would visit in the 80s, 90s, thru today, have very much more "soured" on it...whenever I come back I love it, but all they do is complain about the traffic (I can see their point), crime, changes in music scene, etc., etc.

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Poster: patourkid Date: Oct 5, 2008 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

Yeah I hear the same thing when I talk to folks back home..."it's sooo boring here" then when I ask what they've been up too, "oh well three weeks ago we had a big camping party about thirty people showed up and we banged on drums all night, then two weeks ago we went up to NY to see DTB then last weekend we had a harvest party then next weekend...." Yeah I remember that as being REAL boring....two weeks ago I sat and dreampt about being in Pa at a ragin drum circle then last weekend I dreampt of being in NY under the stars at a DTB show.....

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Oct 5, 2008 9:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

I'm a Pennsylvania lifer myself, and I love the harvest time in this Commonwealth. I'm also a PSU grad and I'm looking forward to the fun on the 13th. Are you going?

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Poster: patourkid Date: Oct 5, 2008 9:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

OH YEAH , I will definitely be there!! My wife graduated from Penn State tech. I lived in Williamsport for a few years but I'm from up by Erie. I can't wait for the big show!!

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Oct 5, 2008 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

Hey man, I live in Erie. Whereabouts are you?

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Oct 5, 2008 2:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

i;m in florida, but those guy's were my old roomate's in va beach back in 87 we toured up and down the east coast!! jus seeing if they ever found archive!! gleeming in the sunshine!!!!! :) hobo, ed, cuppy, this chris squire saying whats up bro's!!!! peace!!~ oh yeah !! we partied in mt. carmel. at gusty's!! and some club in shmokin!!!

This post was modified by whirlwind dreamer 65-95 on 2008-10-05 21:11:54

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Poster: patourkid Date: Oct 5, 2008 3:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

Patkelley, Im from a little town about 60 miles south of Erie called Tidioute right on the edge of the ANF. You would probably recognize Warren before Tidioute Tidioute is JUST south of Warren)well anyways Im gonna be up in Erie on Elk and 20 mile creeks next week Steelhead fishing, may even hit up Trout Run if the fish aren't up in the creeks yet.I didn't know you were in Erie!! Thats my old stompin grounds!! My Grandmother lived in Corey while I was growin up spent a lot of time there.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 5, 2008 4:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

you sound pretty serious about fishing... do you give tours? maybe you could get together with hucker and offer a salt water-fresh water 1-2 punch --


of course, cliff is on The Island -- and you are way out in the wilds! TIDIOUTE! whoa.... i bet fishing is a VERY GOOD idea out there....

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Poster: veblen Date: Oct 5, 2008 5:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

as a native of allegheny national forest I can attest to the fact that NW pennsyltucky is a fisherman's paradise...

ridgway, pa...salute!!!


the pic is of pa's own bridge to nowhere...what remains of the kinzua bridge...built in 1882 and at that time it was the tallest railroad bridge in the world...it was a sight to see until it went down in winds in 2003


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Poster: patourkid Date: Oct 5, 2008 6:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

WOW!!! I puffed MUCHO herb on that bridge in the day!! Yeah Tidioute is about 25 miles south of that bridge sits RIGHT on the Allegheny River I spent a LOT of time in the ANF, that was always my back yard. I have a TON of friends from Warren Man I miss that place. And yeah the fishing is OUTSTANDING!! Pristine streams and of course the beautiful river. I really enjoy the Steelhead fishing up Erie way. I went to a gathering down in Ridgeway years ago and had a blast. That whole area surrounding the ANF is as pretty as it gets. My younger brother just placed second in the Penn State fishing tournament ( which is held in Tidioute) Man talkin about it makes me JONES to go home!!!!

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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 5, 2008 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

crazy pic... thanks

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Poster: Crazy Chester Date: Oct 5, 2008 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

Hey PATourKid! I too am from PA! I like it. very quiet and colorful with the leaves changing and all. It's not for everyone that's for sure. You must enjoy complete solitude at times...LOL hey, the fishing isn't bad either! LOL I live Near Williamsport and Lock Haven. In between them. So it won't be too hard getting to the show!

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Poster: ducats Date: Oct 6, 2008 6:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

didn't I see Roger McGuinn in a bar just off 220 between Williamsport + Lock Haven sometime around 82?

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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Oct 5, 2008 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

I too have a connection to the keystone state. I spent about six years of my childhood in Womelsdorf a town about 20 miles west of Reading and only about 40 minutes from fantastic Hershey Park!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 5, 2008 1:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

As WC Fields would say, "I spent a month one night in Erie" (I did...it wasn't that bad...maybe a week's worth).

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Oct 5, 2008 1:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

anyone know a head named hobo! a navy medic from mt. carmel penn??? or irish kid ed ???

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 6, 2008 8:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

Filthadelphia has changed it's nickname to Killadelphia.

Guido's and cheesesteaks and shoobies, oh my!

Don't get me wrong, I love me some cheesesteaks and have had a blast at the poke a nose! The spectrum, jfk and vet's stadium had some great events as well.

I decided to look stuff up for you (well not really, I'll jsut paste what I read throughtout the course of reading all the news).

WASHINGTON — Unqualified home buyers were not the only ones who benefitted from Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank’s efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae throughout the 1990s.

So did Frank’s partner, a Fannie Mae executive at the forefront of the agency’s push to relax lending restrictions.

Now that Fannie Mae is at the epicenter of a financial meltdown that threatens the U.S. economy, some are raising new questions about Frank's relationship with Herb Moses, who was Fannie’s assistant director for product initiatives. Moses worked at the government-sponsored enterprise from 1991 to 1998, while Frank was on the House Banking Committee, which had jurisdiction over Fannie.

Both Frank and Moses assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest. Critics, however, remain skeptical.

"It’s absolutely a conflict," said Dan Gainor, vice president of the Business & Media Institute. "He was voting on Fannie Mae at a time when he was involved with a Fannie Mae executive. How is that not germane?

"If this had been his ex-wife and he was Republican, I would bet every penny I have - or at least what’s not in the stock market - that this would be considered germane," added Gainor, a T. Boone Pickens Fellow. "But everybody wants to avoid it because he’s gay. It’s the quintessential double standard."

A top GOP House aide agreed.

"C’mon, he writes housing and banking laws and his boyfriend is a top exec at a firm that stands to gain from those laws?" the aide told FOX News. "No media ever takes note? Imagine what would happen if Frank’s political affiliation was R instead of D? Imagine what the media would say if [GOP former] Chairman [Mike] Oxley’s wife or [GOP presidential nominee John] McCain’s wife was a top exec at Fannie for a decade while they wrote the nation’s housing and banking laws."

Frank’s office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Frank met Moses in 1987, the same year he became the first openly gay member of Congress.

"I am the only member of the congressional gay spouse caucus," Moses wrote in the Washington Post in 1991. "On Capitol Hill, Barney always introduces me as his lover."

The two lived together in a Washington home until they broke up in 1998, a few months after Moses ended his seven-year tenure at Fannie Mae, where he was the assistant director of product initiatives. According to National Mortgage News, Moses "helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs."

Critics say such programs led to the mortgage meltdown that prompted last month’s government takeover of Fannie Mae and its financial cousin, Freddie Mac. The giant firms are blamed for spreading bad mortgages throughout the private financial sector.

Although Frank now blames Republicans for the failure of Fannie and Freddie, he spent years blocking GOP lawmakers from imposing tougher regulations on the mortgage giants. In 1991, the year Moses was hired by Fannie, the Boston Globe reported that Frank pushed the agency to loosen regulations on mortgages for two- and three-family homes, even though they were defaulting at twice and five times the rate of single homes, respectively.

Three years later, President Clinton’s Department of Housing and Urban Development tried to impose a new regulation on Fannie, but was thwarted by Frank. Clinton now blames such Democrats for planting the seeds of today’s economic crisis.

"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac," Clinton said recently.

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Poster: el muerto Date: Oct 6, 2008 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

yes, after I seen Bambi collapse in a cheeze steak shop, killy is dead.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 6, 2008 5:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

must be a tough job, being the LMA forum gadfly, huh?

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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 6, 2008 9:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

hey arb,

aren't you on the east coast? i just happened to notice i am saying Springfield CT ! i should have maybe said Hartford -- i am out of the area so long i am confused and not putting it right -- and i don't want to bump the post again by fixing it now -- so i am using your post as a footnote platform -- sorry folks, i am a stupid turd........ supstitute Hartford for Springfield above.....

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Oct 6, 2008 5:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pennsylvania

If you mean that in a platonic sense, I am happy to oblige.